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Poster: Capt. Cook Date: Aug 19, 2010 5:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: TJI - WORST SHOW EVER

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1984-04-23.109416.beyer-senn-daweez.D5scott.flac16

The boys really out do themselves this night with a less-than-sizzling 6-song first set that ranks as worse than studio filler. The New Haven Col is primed and let me tell you a Jerry We-Are-Sorry Iko is nice but the sloppiness is evident and even a 17 minute Uncle Johns Band as if jerry were pleading from his own devil stricken soul for SOMETHING well, no Brent is so shocked he pulls out a first timer--- wow - after some pounding on things we get what might be the worst post drums in 1984 the obligitory Truckin>Black Peter>R&R>Good Lovin'>Day Job!! wow wish I was at my day job and not sitting in this traffic jam to get home fast...

Please, no more uploads of this lame 1984 East Coast Tour. I still want my money back!!!

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Poster: buscameby Date: Aug 20, 2010 8:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI - WORST SHOW EVER

I'll see your 84' shows and raise you one Red Rocks show from 85'. 9/6/85 was so bad that Jerry LEFT THE STAGE to go take care of his habit while Bobby sang "Spoonful".

I was so disgusted that I had to turn my back and almost cry, I was sure this was the END! But of coarse, the next day was Redemption Day with the first Fantasy > Hey Jude. I've heard that Phil too was near the end of his rope with Jerry that weekend but obviously something got better for a while.

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Poster: Jack o' Roses Date: Aug 20, 2010 5:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI - WORST SHOW EVER

I love many '84 shows! I saw 5 shows: Hampton (S>F, Terrapin, Dew), MWP (KC Jones, jam into drumz, the whole 2nd night) & Charlotte. These shows make a statement about the power of the band at this time, zits & all. & yeah, the boys sometimes displayed some poppin'-fresh acne; but pre-coma '86, pre-coma '92, almost all of '94-95 were noticeably less "church-like" than 1984 **IMVHO.**
I mean, spring tour 1995 (B'ham, I think) Jer's hands were both on top of his axe while Morning Dew was being played by the rest of the band-he was only singing!!! oH the pain (of diabetic peripheral neuropathy that was causing him to loose his fine motor control).
BTW blood sugar control is essential - Hagen Dazs likely did him worse that the other H's...
Remember kids to take the sugars out of Sugar Smacks OR Sugar & Smacks don't mix.
I heard from a nurse (X of a friend of mine) working when they brought Jer into Marin Gen in 7/86 that they had never seen blood sugar #s so high in a surviving person.--that's the best evidence to me that Prayer Works!

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Poster: smokinchains Date: Aug 20, 2010 6:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI - WORST SHOW EVER

This show is hilariously bad. Bob's dog died and he sounds wasted through the whole thing:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd87-01-29.sbd.bobh.10535.sbeok.shnf

At least it's comical to jump through.

My friend actually fell asleep during space at this show. Probably the most boring show ever and makes me a little sad when I think about it:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd94-08-03.aud.unknown.8728.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Aug 20, 2010 12:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI - WORST SHOW EVER

Just read this fantastic and hilarious review of the 1/29/87 show (favorite line: "D+ for comedy"):

Reviewer: happy420 - 3.00 out of 5 stars3.00 out of 5 stars3.00 out of 5 stars - April 21, 2005
Subject: "...at least I'm enjoying the ride."
This show finds Jerry in top form...sadly it could easily be a show from '95 in an alternate reality where Brent lives and Bobby is strung out and falling apart instead of Jerry. Yeah...that bad. It's a shame because the recording and mix are great overall. A friend who took some people to this show for their first Dead show experience recalls telling them afterward that it wouldn't hurt his feelings for them to say Bobby sounded bad. There are some rather nice Garcia moments however and a couple of his tunes would make nice filler. 3 stars overall (rounded up)

Note: the Finiculi Finicula file includes "Hell in a Bucket"...Bobby sounds either drunk or high as a kite singing it, complicated by guitar problems...as Jerry says before they start "Bob seems to be having some trouble with his guitar". Plus Healy is f*cking with the vox and the mix throughout. One of the "at least I'm enjoying the ride" lines has a chipmunk sounding octave effect on it and the levels take a few minutes to settle down. There is a quick but major drop out (aud patch?) in the middle of the last verse and Bobby sounds like a lunatic yelling "ride, ride, ride" drenched in Healy's delay for the crescendo. Must have been one hell of a party before the show! D-

A standard Sugaree pulls them back down to earth a bit, with beautiful vocals and playing by Jerry & co...fortunately Healy seems to have gotten satisfied with his mix, the vocals are beautifully blended and every instrument present. B

"El Paso" finds Bobby still sounding quite befuddled, singing the verses (what he can remember) quietly as if to himself in a vein attempt to get them in order...the only line he really nails is "tonight nothing's worse than this pain in my heart" and we and the rest of the band suffer through it with him. Worst El Paso I've heard! D-

Jerry answers with a strained "Loser" as if to sympathize. C-

With the lazy opening notes of "Little Red Rooster" Bobby lets us know we could be in for a long night. Fortunately Jerry is a much better slide player and cries and wails beautifully in lamentation for Bob's lost Rooster. Maybe if someone helped him find the damned rooster Bob could get his mojo back! Brent's corny "you ain't sh*t to me" verse certainly doesn't do it, so Bobby tries to kill him with his slide playing! D+ for comedy

"Brown Eyed Women" picks things up again and Jerry does some really nice picking and confident singing throughout. B

Bobby, still stumbling over the words, delivers a mechanical & flat "Cassidy". Though short and sweet, by the jam it's clear the band won't be deterred, Jerry leading them through a series of odd little places before bringing it to a close. C

"Don't Ease Me In" is rockin' and wraps up the bumpy first set aptly. I imagine the band and the crowd both retreating to take stock and "elevate". B

A lackluster "Scarlet" begins the second set with Bobby's guitar out of tune. Whatever went on during the set break doesn't seem to have helped and the band seems to slip into "finish the show" mode. Though Jerry licks his way through the short jam and transition to "Fire" nicely there is little dynamic variation. "Fire" itself is perfunctory. C

With the way things have progressed so far the first notes of "Looks Like Rain" are not encouraging, and Bobby follows through with a warbly, flat reading. The band doesn't linger too long but Bob doesn't fail to deliver some WEIRdness at the end..."hear it? come again?" C-

"Terrapin" offers hope but has Jerry and the boys sounding tired now, and statements do indeed "just seem vein at last..." the whole tune unfolds lazily and without anything more remarkable than that. C

Billy and Mickey give a cursory "Drums" but without much momentum carrying them in it falls flat. They get into what sounds like a china crash and buffalo drum bashing contest early on, with progressively more and more white noise thrown in, not much even spinner alley can work with here. C-

Given that Bobby has already been spacing out all night the boys skip "Space" and jump straight into "I Need a Miracle" as if to emphasize his desperation. C-

"Stella Blue" is sleepy and dreamier than usual with Brent making some ambient noises reminiscent of a Theremin under Jerry's vocals...he sings with passion ("...crying like the wind") and nails the lyrics taboot. Such a beautiful song... B-

Jerry gives Bobby a rest by sliding right into the opening licks of "Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad" from the last few of "Stella Blue" and it's a good choice to get the blood flowing for the first time in the set. Thousands of Deadheads wake up. Great solos by Jerry with some fab B3 from Brent thrown in. B-

Fortunately "Johnny B. Goode" is about a killer guitar player and Jerry rips this one. However, if it were about a great singer who had an impeccable memory the irony might be too much to bear. C-

Jerry choice of "It's All Over Now Baby Blue" seems almost like a victory lap ("We made it to the encore!"), he gives it his all, but even that sentiment fails to give the band much inspiration as they yawn their way through it. C
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Poster: stratocaster Date: Aug 19, 2010 5:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI - WORST SHOW EVER

yeah, some of these 84 shows are buzzkill material...not remembering this one as being unusually worse than a couple others in the same time period...I rarely listen to 1984 stuff myself...as far as "worst" show ever...not sure if this is worse than the notorious Boreal Ridge show, summer '86 had some awful shows before Garcia strokes out...early spring 71 has a few clunkers, as does Spring 78 and January 79...Las Vegas 94 was pretty putrid...10-07-1994 has the worst Dew ever, so it automatically makes a worst ever list on principle...I was personally at some pretty lame 95 shows...

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Poster: Daddy D Date: Aug 19, 2010 5:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI - WORST SHOW EVER

How dare you say that any Grateful Dead show was ever anything but stellar! Don't be a Hater!! ;-)

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 19, 2010 7:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI - WORST SHOW EVER

Era Abuse ! Era Abuse !

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Aug 19, 2010 8:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI - WORST SHOW EVER

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1984-04-20.sbd.miller.103432.flac16 heres a palatable 84 show that really rocks!!!

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Poster: nexusofthecrisis Date: Aug 19, 2010 9:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI - WORST SHOW EVER

I'm listening to this thing right now, and I'm just at Saint of circumstance, but i'm enjoying it quite a bit. I don't know about worst show ever... to each his own brother.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 20, 2010 6:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI - WORST SHOW EVER

Spring 84 East Coast may have been lacking, but they certainly were able to rally and put on some fantastic shows the following Fall in the East. Perhaps they felt somewhat guilty.

As for "worst ever", that is going to be very subjective. As for me, I can put just about anything after '91 up as a possibility. But that's just me. I know of a select group that will say "anything after 77 was the worst ever." To each his own.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Aug 20, 2010 5:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI - WORST SHOW EVER

You may want to compare this to 86 RFK pre coma show - that gets my vote for worst.

I think I was at some of these 84's and is probably a reason I went less and less

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Poster: vapors Date: Aug 19, 2010 6:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: only a fool

I doubt that the soundboard will make you change your mind, but it sounds better to me:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1984-04-23.sbd.walker-scotton.miller.105927.flac16

Brent fans who haven’t heard this song before should check it out. After the rest of the band leaves stage he tries out this never again played original with the drummers.


This post was modified by vapors on 2010-08-20 01:48:07

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Poster: pjcenedella Date: Aug 20, 2010 12:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI - WORST SHOW EVER

i see your 4/23/1984 and raise you this disaster..

http://www.archive.org/details/gd91-06-01.sbd.barbella.6020.sbeok.shnf

the comments say it all. my dad was at this show and he's got some pretty interesting stories.

enjoy...or try to atleast.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Aug 21, 2010 9:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI - WORST SHOW EVER

Not the worst ever but very disappointing. I too was at this show and coming off the vegas run in April and the very inspired playing leading up to this gig. The NFA with Jerry and bruce is the only thing rally worth commenting on